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welcome to the center of light radio

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with spiritual teacher intuitive

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musician composer and best-selling

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author of the Divine Principle anchoring

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heaven on earth your host Keith Anthony

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Blanchard welcome one welcome all our

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begins to roll welcome to sooner of

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light radio again my name is Keith

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Anthony Blanchard I did get a message

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from my alien-human hybrid friend who is

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head of security in this quadrant of our

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galaxy

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hard to believe I know but the truth

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does not need anyone's permission to

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exist

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he denied my request to interview and he

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said Keith I would just love to but my

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level of security I just cannot do that

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but hopefully we'll get dr. Rex hair on

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the show who was the first in person

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I've interviewed on center of light

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radio on inception radio network three

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years ago one of the participants in

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this experience with nucleus eight

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alien-human hybrid he was around for

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four years his 40-year clinical

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psychologist trust me he knows we came

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and be happy it looks like and this was

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nothing nothing of the sort

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now it's time to get down to sin of

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light radio business let me tell you a

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little bit about my guest today the show

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title for tonight is no one not a single

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soul no one is born racist Jane Elliott

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international known teacher lecturer

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diversity trainer and recipient of the

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National Mental Health Association's

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award for excellence in education

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exposes prejudice prejudice and bigotry

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for what it is an irrational class

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system based upon purely arbitrary

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factors and if you think does not this

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does not apply to you you are in for a

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rude awakening bold statement in

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response to the assassination of Martin

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Luther King jr. over 30 years ago Jane

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Elliott devised

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I just got sidetracked Jane Nelly

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devised a controversial and startling

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blue eyes brown eyes exercise this now

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famous exercise labels participants as

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inferior or superior based solely upon

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the color of their eyes and exposes them

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to the experience of being a minority

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everyone who is exposed to Jane Eliot's

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work be it through a lecture workshop or

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video is dramatically affected by it you

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can find more about my guests of WWJ and

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Elliot calm welcome to sin of light

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radio Jane Elliott well thank you for

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welcoming me I don't know why you're

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having me on but I'm perfectly happy to

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do this well I'll tell you why because I

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watched you on social media here and

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there for a couple years and one day

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something said Keith this is a must I

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love your message it is my message I

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think it's a message of

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lots of people so let me ask you this

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question gene if I'm a UI and people

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looking like we are definitely not

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racist but some of us just a not wait

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wait wait wait wait wait don't say I'm

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not a racist

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if you are born school and raised in the

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United States of America and you're not

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a racist

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you didn't go to school number one and

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if you did go to school you are a racist

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you're a miracle because we don't

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educate people in the United States of

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America we indoctrinate people we it

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takes us from the ages of five it used

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to be five knots three until you're 18

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to get you thoroughly indoctrinated to

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the myth of white superiority and the

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grandness of the United States of

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America so if you come through that and

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you aren't a racist

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somebody has interfered with your

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education and you'll have to go back to

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take that course over again ordinarily

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well ordinarily people think that being

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a racist means you Lynch people no it

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means that you perform psychological

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genocide on students in the schools on a

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daily basis

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and you get well paid for doing that and

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if you send out a person who is

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absolutely convinced of the rightness of

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whiteness then you can go on to college

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and learn some more be reinforced in

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what you learned in kindergarten and

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they've done studies that prove that the

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longer you stay in school the more vigor

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did you become because the more

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reinforcement you get for those lives

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that were told you in kindergarten now

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that sounds real really harsh and cruel

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and rude and mean and nobody listening

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to this is going to think of the plaques

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to them but close your eyes I don't know

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whether your eyes are close to close

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your eyes and picture a racist now open

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your eyes what did you picture someone

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who is racist and it definitely was it

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didn't seem like any image of myself I'm

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not saying I don't have some of that

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deeply rooted and has any residual

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effects but I know that Keith Anthony

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Blanchett myself it doesn't exist in me

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in a very in a conscious way that is a

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fact well if it doesn't if you guys are

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you a person

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the white color group or another color

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group I'm named a white boy I'm sorry

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but number one you said a white boy and

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boy is the word we use to infantilize

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males of color on a daily basis and

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number one you're you're a member of a

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white color group it's okay to say that

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instead of saying the white race because

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that's what you are there's only one

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race on the face of the earth there are

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lots of color groups r-25 under

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different skillet skin colors on the

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face of the earth can you think of 2500

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different names for racists or for races

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maybe a few no well the people who

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thought this up couldn't think of more

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than three either and that's what they

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thought of and that's where we are and

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it was alive 500 years ago after the

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Spanish Inquisition when they were

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looking around to find another way to

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decide who to enslave or who to abuse

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they couldn't use religion anymore

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because you can't always tell what a

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person's religion is by looking at them

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so they had to find a physical

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characteristic that was obvious and they

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said on skin color that's only been five

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hundred years ago there have always been

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colored many different people with

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different colors but facing racism race

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basing our ability to kill or to enslave

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people has been based for 500 years on

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skin color it makes no sense at all skin

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colors simply them at your your skins

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reaction to the sunlight it's a chemical

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melanin in your skin either the presence

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or the absence of it does not change

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your intelligence people need to know

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that but they don't know it because

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they've had 500 years to learn a lie so

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Jane did wouldn't just become an active

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part of your life I mean I know you've

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been an educator for many many years I'm

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sure this was G's word brewing for you

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but was there an event that took place

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personally close to you if I may without

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being too personal that prompted you to

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become a very active active participant

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in this movement beautiful yeah I was in

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college and I had never no high school

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and the only person on that we ever saw

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while I was in high school was one black

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who was on an opposing team and my

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brother played football and he said that

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guys one of the greatest sports I've

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ever seen east terrific and he's not

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only a sportsman

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he's a good he's a good person to be you

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know to to him be in a contest with and

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at that point I thought then maybe we've

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been lied to for a long time about black

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people not being as smart as the rest of

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us and then I went to college and I

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learned that I had been lied to

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absolutely at my high school might

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telemetry junior and senior high school

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education was a flat-out lie what skin

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color is concerned made me furious and

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then I married my lovely husband who

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looked like Marlon Brando did he ever

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and we moved water my lord

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yeah well my daughter to ten and we

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moved to Waterloo Iowa which was called

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little Chicago because the many the

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number of blacks that were there and

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awful things were said in the area in

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which we lived about blacks but my

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husband worked in a grocery store that

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was in the north end which was the black

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section and he found out that one person

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worked for the federal government came

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in every week and stole from him the

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blacks didn't he found out that black

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people we had been lined grossly to

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about black people and we both found out

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that the people we were associating with

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in the white section and it was a very

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different they're very distinct here's a

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white piece were white people and here's

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where black people live at that time the

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people were living with we would drive

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all the way across town on Sunday and

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get down on their knees and pray that

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their kids wouldn't have to be bused to

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school in order to integrate the schools

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and we knew that the whole thing was

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absolutely upside down and backward my

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husband had one black employee the

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company that he worked for would allow

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him to have one black employee well Jim

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Jackson went to college so Darryl was

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left out a black employee and the head

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of the 8th NAACP and what came to my

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husband and said they were going to pick

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at your store he said why would you do

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that she said because you don't have a

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black employees and find me a black

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employees no I don't want to have a

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black employee I think it's your store

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so they picketed my husband's store as a

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first store picket in Waterloo because

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of during civil rights movement so we

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decided it was time to get

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Waterloo because that was the there were

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going to be riot starting and we were

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going to have to take sides we moved out

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to get away from having to take sides in

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that situation Jane I am I live in

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Memphis Tennessee I live in the mouth I

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miss I live in the midst of it all

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meaning if I you know honestly Jane III

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I don't turn a blind eye to the

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situation I really really don't I do it

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more from a conscious perspective I

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don't acknowledge the presence of it

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which helps me to stay in my best place

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and as I stay away you don't ignore you

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don't you don't pay attention to the

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presence of it you don't admit the

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presence of it oh absolutely I do I

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don't

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very much aware that it exists

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especially where I live but I don't buy

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into the illusion that most people here

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in the proximity of where I live do

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which exacerbates and makes it grow in

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fact when I go into a particular area

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regardless of the color of being or

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people that are there I don't allow that

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to consume you I don't allow to knock me

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off my sinner I don't allow such things

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in whatever part of town that is said by

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other people to be a bad place I don't

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allow it to affect me because I go in

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there and when I get out of my car

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wherever it is I'm at with people that

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are not like me and I am NOT like them I

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immediately begin to make friends it's

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like hello how are you doing sorry I

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opened the door so I don't buy into this

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game that most people do that keeps this

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horrible energy alive well when you see

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a person of a different color group and

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you're in the part of town which they

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have been consigned to you never feel

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that maybe you're an interloper they're

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not whatsoever in fact I live quote to

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make the point in that part of town I

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live in middle Memphis Tennessee in fact

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you go what less than one mile down to

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the grocery store to get gas in your

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vehicle that part of town that were

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describing in a very polite way I'm

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right there and I feel my vehicle up all

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the time in fact I mean

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doing it so long I could have initially

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got out of my vehicle and had that

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feeling it doesn't exist for me when at

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the point I was trying to make and so

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when I step out of my car yes ma'am yes

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sir I just go through the gamut as if

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not as if the fact that they are

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actually just like everybody else and

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everybody is just like them that racism

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does not exist for me it might exist for

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those other people who are living in

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ignorance but it does not exist for me

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do you think it doesn't exist for the

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black people who are in that area that

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very well could be said but it doesn't

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exist for me and the mirror reflection

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that I am able to have happen in my life

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is an ally camaraderie friendship people

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that have been gone there so long now

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they to get out the car hey what's going

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on today it doesn't it doesn't exist I

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don't buy into it because and I don't

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turn the blind to it I do it I know

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there is an issue and a problem that

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exists it doesn't exist for me but

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please don't say it doesn't exist for

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you because because whether or not you

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go along with that to say it doesn't

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exist for you is to make the statement

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that I don't have to worry about it you

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see as far as I'm concerned you're one

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of my cousins and so are all those all

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those people who of all those other

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color groups of my cousins if it exists

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for them it exists for me and I want it

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stopped I totally understand your point

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in that aspect because that's why I had

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you on this had you on the show for the

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very reason that you can educate the

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reason you can educate myself to put you

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to different ideas as well as other

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people absolutely I care about the

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situation but for me on a personal level

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how it affects my day-to-day life as I

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move about in the world I do not live in

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fear of said racism especially for the

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part of the country in an element I do

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not listen to what you're saying you

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don't live in fear you don't have to

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think about it it doesn't exist for you

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that's exactly what I want every person

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in Memphis to be able to say it doesn't

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exist for me I don't have to live in

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fear - my 10 year old boy out to the

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grocery store if he comes home

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from a toy that looks like I'm done I

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don't have to worry about him being shot

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shot by the cops I want everybody to be

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able to make the statement that you just

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did it doesn't exist for me I have no

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fear I can go where I choose to be what

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I choose to be do what I want to do

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without being afraid that I will get

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into the hands of the law see you I see

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you you I I don't worry about racism for

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me I worry a whole lot about it for

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others I watch you guys dinner yeah

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LEDs L said you must not tolerate the

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untolerable and if it's untolerable for

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one black mother

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it's untolerable for me because that

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black mother is one of my relatives

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because we all came from the same black

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females who evolved about 500,000 years

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ago but yeah that's what that's what

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this is all about those words have

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consequences people have been killed by

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words on a daily basis in this country

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ever since we started this country we

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have been killing people with words we

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do it all the time

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yet when I was a kid we said sticks and

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stones may break my bones but words will

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never hurt me and it wasn't true then

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and it isn't true now sticks and stones

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may break your bones but words cause

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like a lot to do psychological genocide

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every day in this country and when

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somebody says and when a white person

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says it doesn't affect me oh my god do

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you realize how lucky you are

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and I don't think most of us do I don't

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think most white folks understand how

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lucky they are and it isn't because they

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have white privilege it's because most

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white folks are ignorant about what

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causes skin color and what skin color

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means and so but so they dislike people

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or distrust people because and they

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blame it on the color of somebody else's

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skin it isn't the color of skin this is

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the problem if sweetener intolerance

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which is the problem beautiful we do a

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bad job of educating beautiful

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I totally agree Jane let me ask you this

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I understand the power of words I

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understand that people out of ignorance

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throw words around and it cuts like a

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razor on someone's colored or whatever

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non colored skin I totally get it and

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sometimes by the way we act towards them

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as just ad pouring salt into the wound

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but let me ask you this and I'm truly

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asking you this because I want to know

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what you think about this what about

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personal responsibility and what I mean

461
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by that is you know I go out in public

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all the time people call me words I had

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an incident sometime the recent past

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someone called me a big ol fat name I'm

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not gonna announce on the air but I

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decided in that moment for me then I'm

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just gonna step aside and metaphorically

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energetically not let this bother me and

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in so doing I had so much much peace

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because as soon as I would have sounded

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off back to this person I would have

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been in the midst of a fight and I don't

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mean necessarily a physical

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confrontation but just in a bickering

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and ongoing debate tasks with someone

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else but in my stepping aside that

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person was left to be with themself

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because I didn't engage or bind to the

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dynamic or the game of someone that

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called me that name a lot of people of

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whatever shade of color of skin have

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raised themselves out of quote the hood

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they've raised themselves out of the

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projects the metaphorical projects that

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seems to invade everyone's consciousness

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in that way so where does personal

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responsibility come in to say you know

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what I'm truly above this this does not

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affect me because I am NOT what you

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think I am you are what you think I am

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when when that one person said something

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nasty to you had you had that a lot of

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times in the last six months no no

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totally I totally get you point

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absolutely no the point is that that was

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one person attacking you with no no

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support behind him or her that little

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black child walking down the street

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every day knows that the whole society

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other than his own parents and brothers

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and sisters and the members of his color

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group see him as less than human on a

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daily

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aces and isn't one person saying these

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things it's the president the United

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States saying these things and the

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president was elected by the members of

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the electoral college

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so that kid knows that not only does

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that little boy in the next seat think

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less of him because of that little boy's

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ignorance about skin colors the whole

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society does it elected a man who says

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ugly things about other color groups so

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one on one for you is very different as

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an adult is very different than society

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on one 24/7 for a little black kids bar

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little brown kid a little Native

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American kid or any of those people who

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came from to this country from those

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shit-housed countries as our president

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described them yeah it isn't just one

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person this kid hears this all day every

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day if he turns on the television he's

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bound to see that he is less than if he

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goes outside to play if he doesn't stay

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in the right place he's bound to be told

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by a whole lot of people in East West

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when the television tells him that he's

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less than there's the church the church

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tells him it is less than because last

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Oh last month when we showed pictures of

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Jesus he looked just like little

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Pillsbury Doughboy now Jesus didn't look

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like a little Pillsbury Doughboy Jesus

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had Peter Bronson kinky wooly hair right

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that little black kid is being blasted

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with this dog chef's stuff all day every

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day you got it once he gets it oh he

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gets it from them before he's born

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because his mother doesn't get the same

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00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:42,809
treatment in the delivery room that the

543
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:44,940
white women do and if you think I'm

544
00:22:50,060 --> 00:22:46,890
lying about that then come with me to a

545
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:50,070
midlife to a Midwest Conference and hear

546
00:22:54,289 --> 00:22:52,080
the reason many of them became midwives

547
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,299
because they wanted to see to it that

548
00:23:00,289 --> 00:22:56,880
women of color got treated as well in

549
00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:00,299
the delivery room as white women did it

550
00:23:04,370 --> 00:23:02,370
so you see this this starts with that

551
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,380
kid before her and that there are places

552
00:23:08,419 --> 00:23:06,240
in this country where you still can't be

553
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:08,429
buried in the local cemetery if you want

554
00:23:13,789 --> 00:23:11,490
the right color so this isn't this isn't

555
00:23:15,860 --> 00:23:13,799
something that happens Oh once and I

556
00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:15,870
just said he's ignorant oh that's

557
00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:17,700
everybody including your teacher and

558
00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:18,360
your preacher

559
00:23:22,670 --> 00:23:20,940
and the person running the pharmacy and

560
00:23:25,820 --> 00:23:22,680
the person running a supermarket and the

561
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:25,830
person in the in the gift shop and at

562
00:23:32,180 --> 00:23:29,310
the filling station and the cops all say

563
00:23:33,950 --> 00:23:32,190
this all give the same impression of how

564
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:33,960
they feel about you that's a whole lot

565
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:37,200
different thank you for the fresh

566
00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:39,570
perspective because being me I'm old

567
00:23:42,590 --> 00:23:40,980
enough I have enough common sense I've

568
00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:42,600
done enough spiritual work on myself to

569
00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:44,430
where I can't step aside and not let it

570
00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:45,960
affect me and then you bring up this

571
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:47,790
little boy who doesn't have those kinds

572
00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:50,820
of abilities I totally get that and then

573
00:23:54,980 --> 00:23:52,710
most people would say well it's the

574
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:54,990
parents responsibility to raise the

575
00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:57,450
child to be you mean you mean the same

576
00:24:01,400 --> 00:23:59,460
parent that was raised that when they

577
00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:01,410
were a child subjected to the same

578
00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:05,880
oppression so there we go there we go

579
00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:07,950
again we're saying it's the parent who

580
00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:09,630
raised the child who's being abused

581
00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:15,630
right let me clarify my statement most

582
00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:17,790
people would automatically go to it's

583
00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:20,430
the parents responsibility to raise the

584
00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:22,920
child to be solid and stable and my next

585
00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:24,750
thought was oh you mean the same parent

586
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,670
that once when they were a child they

587
00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:28,320
had the same experience of being bullied

588
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:31,830
so how could they do so raise the child

589
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:35,550
they do look like women and men do that

590
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:38,010
all the time sure black women and men

591
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:39,360
for triggering black women raise

592
00:24:44,060 --> 00:24:42,330
children who are strong and stable and

593
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:44,070
develop coping skills that you and I

594
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,510
have never developed because we've never

595
00:24:50,660 --> 00:24:48,720
had to but when you say the parents are

596
00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:50,670
defensible it's the fault of the parents

597
00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:52,740
it's the fault of the parents who raised

598
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:54,390
the kid who is mistreating somebody

599
00:24:58,580 --> 00:24:55,970
because the color of their skin don't

600
00:25:01,370 --> 00:24:58,590
need to be there those are the ones who

601
00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:01,380
are making a mistake and those are the

602
00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:04,200
ones who solidly to this day believe

603
00:25:08,180 --> 00:25:07,260
that no black man had better look at my

604
00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:08,190
white daughter

605
00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:10,590
and no black daughter should never look

606
00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:13,500
at my white front yes those parents are

607
00:25:17,170 --> 00:25:15,630
the ones with who need the counseling

608
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:17,180
those are the parents who need to be

609
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,240
re-educated but they need to be

610
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:22,640
reconditioned because they have been

611
00:25:27,170 --> 00:25:25,260
conditioned to believe in the myth of

612
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:27,180
white superiority they need the

613
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:29,130
reconditioning not the black kid on the

614
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:31,290
street who's been being abused by the

615
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:31,890
pretty kid

616
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:36,480
whose parents haven't grown up from a

617
00:25:43,330 --> 00:25:38,850
Jane its to truly not a black white red

618
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,340
yellow blue issue it isn't you're right

619
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:45,600
that's because you're white if you're

620
00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:48,750
black it has to be a black red don't you

621
00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:50,550
think personal responsibility I'm not

622
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:52,440
saying that we didn't have white

623
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:54,090
privilege and we had an easier I'm not

624
00:26:00,170 --> 00:25:58,050
any way shape form of me because don't

625
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:00,180
use white privilege with me because the

626
00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:02,090
person who did the white privilege

627
00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:04,710
have you read Peggy McIntosh's list of

628
00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:06,590
white privileges I have not

629
00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:10,260
now before you before you quote white

630
00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:12,180
privilege again before you even use that

631
00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:14,520
phrase again read that list of white

632
00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:17,700
privileges she had first she had 25

633
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:19,860
white privileges I have these privileges

634
00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:22,770
because of my race I can stand up and

635
00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:24,990
give my opinion and not not be very

636
00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:26,820
killed because of my race I can get in

637
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:28,470
the house I can buy a house in the

638
00:26:32,030 --> 00:26:30,150
neighborhood I want to not be and refuse

639
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:32,040
that house because of my race now she

640
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:34,500
wrote that before she anybody told her

641
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:37,590
Peggy baby there's only one race if you

642
00:26:40,670 --> 00:26:39,210
can do those things because of your race

643
00:26:42,170 --> 00:26:40,680
and we're all members in the same race

644
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:42,180
then we should all have those same

645
00:26:46,610 --> 00:26:44,070
freedoms we should all have those same

646
00:26:48,620 --> 00:26:46,620
privileges but we don't have those

647
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,630
privileges because of the ignorance of

648
00:26:52,790 --> 00:26:50,640
white people who think that there's only

649
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:52,800
one race and the list of white

650
00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:55,170
privileges nails down reinforces

651
00:27:01,160 --> 00:26:57,630
absolutely reinforces the idea of race

652
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:01,170
she will eventually restate every one of

653
00:27:04,190 --> 00:27:02,670
those white privileges and she'll say I

654
00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:04,200
can do these things because of the color

655
00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,750
of my skin and once she puts the color

656
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:09,120
of my skin there it is going to be so

657
00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:11,940
ludicrous and so ridiculous and so

658
00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:14,190
ignorant that she will she will stop

659
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:17,340
talking about white privilege we have to

660
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:18,690
start talking about white privilege

661
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:20,370
because it is a white privilege it is

662
00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:24,000
privilege based on a faulty premise

663
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:25,830
which is that there is more than one

664
00:27:28,670 --> 00:27:27,150
race on the face of the earth and there

665
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:28,680
isn't there are lots of different color

666
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:30,330
groups lots of different cultural groups

667
00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:32,700
but there's only one race and I'm making

668
00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:33,870
this clear to you

669
00:27:39,710 --> 00:27:37,320
are you glad I'm loving it I'm loving

670
00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:39,720
the fire between you and I most people

671
00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:41,880
with love the passion there how you and

672
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:43,950
I both speak so Jane we're at the bottom

673
00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:45,090
of the hour everyone just keep dancing

674
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:45,870
Blanche it soon

675
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:47,910
light radio 6 p.m. Eastern Time every

676
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:49,410
Monday night I didn't announce at the

677
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:50,940
beginning the show but very soon either

678
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:52,530
the beginning of February March we're

679
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:54,090
going to add another hour to this

680
00:27:57,770 --> 00:27:55,559
broadcast which I'm very very excited

681
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,780
about stick around for details on that

682
00:28:02,180 --> 00:27:59,400
today my guest is Miss Jane Elliott you

683
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:02,190
can find more about her at Jane Elliott

684
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:04,260
com Jane is there anything else you'd

685
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:05,970
like to say to listen on it so they can

686
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:08,100
find out about you and how to find your

687
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:11,760
works and your books you don't have to

688
00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:13,260
find out more about me what you have to

689
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:16,380
find more out about is people who are

690
00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:19,679
other than of your color group let me

691
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:21,630
ask you this who was our first black

692
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:25,710
president I'm assuming a good point -

693
00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:28,080
Obama unless there was someone in a

694
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:30,260
ratio that had a just lighter skin

695
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:32,490
Abraham Lincoln was our first black

696
00:28:37,730 --> 00:28:33,120
president

697
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:37,740
he was my black no the point is that you

698
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:45,450
said Obama first up with the fact that

699
00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:48,030
someone could have been a black race we

700
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:49,500
just had lighter skin and you brought up

701
00:28:53,390 --> 00:28:51,330
Abraham Lincoln so please tell me more

702
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:53,400
about that I'm curious but he was never

703
00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:55,950
identified as black by the people who

704
00:29:00,020 --> 00:28:58,200
elected him nor who followed him and

705
00:29:01,669 --> 00:29:00,030
right now and have for years the

706
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:01,679
Republican Party has been called the

707
00:29:05,419 --> 00:29:03,570
party of Lincoln how long do you think

708
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:05,429
they'll continue to call the Republican

709
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:07,140
Party the party of Lincoln once they

710
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:09,000
find out that he was a Melungeon part

711
00:29:14,450 --> 00:29:12,110
black / white and part Cherokee Indian

712
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:14,460
is that going to be difficult for those

713
00:29:19,130 --> 00:29:17,100
folks you know Jane I recently found out

714
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:19,140
recently say a couple of months back

715
00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:20,880
that they were supposedly I may have the

716
00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:22,470
number one we don't make the point five

717
00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:24,420
presidents before the white ones that we

718
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:27,960
know that were of the black persuasion

719
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:30,030
that's what I is that true would you

720
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,370
know about that history well I know that

721
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:34,260
there were at least four I don't know

722
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:38,130
all cyber I know for an ambulance

723
00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:42,390
wait a minute every president every man

724
00:29:46,220 --> 00:29:43,950
who's ever been president itíd States

725
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:46,230
had the same great-great-great-great

726
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:48,090
grandfather and mother back there five

727
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:50,090
hundred thousand years ago she was black

728
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:53,070
so in fact every president has been

729
00:29:57,020 --> 00:29:55,050
black but we have called them all white

730
00:29:59,450 --> 00:29:57,030
because we absolutely refuse to think

731
00:30:03,650 --> 00:29:59,460
about what will happen if we get our DNA

732
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:03,660
my ex daughter-in-law got her DNA done

733
00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:05,940
and she was absolutely positive that she

734
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:09,000
was either Norwegian or Swedish so the

735
00:30:14,660 --> 00:30:11,910
Republic results came back and she is

736
00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:14,670
Irish and English and part of her DNA

737
00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:18,900
came from Nigeria now think about that

738
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,780
this blonde blue-eyed lovely woman has

739
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:24,000
been convinced all her life that she's

740
00:30:28,790 --> 00:30:26,130
Bureau eight and there's no such person

741
00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:28,800
as pure white we are all descendants

742
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,840
from those first black females that

743
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:33,840
evolved 500 thousand years ago I think

744
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:35,820
it's time to start teaching that in the

745
00:30:40,730 --> 00:30:37,170
school have you read the book the myth

746
00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:40,740
of race by Robert Wald sessemann I have

747
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:42,120
not you can bet I'm a listen back to

748
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:47,730
this broadcast and if you ever call me

749
00:30:55,780 --> 00:30:49,290
again I will ask you what it said on

750
00:30:59,270 --> 00:30:57,890
everybody would read that and if

751
00:31:01,580 --> 00:30:59,280
everybody would read they came before

752
00:31:03,260 --> 00:31:01,590
Columbus and if everybody would read

753
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:03,270
Nile Valley contributions to

754
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,370
civilization we could turn this thing

755
00:31:10,790 --> 00:31:07,200
around because we would be educating

756
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:10,800
people instead of indoctrinating them if

757
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:13,890
kids could go to school during national

758
00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:15,810
Brotherhood week and see that we really

759
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:18,390
are not all brothers but all cousins I

760
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:20,130
think of really if they had teachers who

761
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:21,450
would really say now look here's the way

762
00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:23,220
it is here's where your family came from

763
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:25,020
and they would all end up realizing that

764
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:26,970
we all came from black people in the

765
00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:30,090
sub-saharan Africa and there were black

766
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:31,980
people who were curious and adventurous

767
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:35,010
and brilliant and they they peopled

768
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:37,530
every piece of land of large enough to

769
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:40,650
land on all over the world and as they

770
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:42,090
went north farther and farther from the

771
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:43,620
equator their bodies produced less and

772
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:45,570
less melanin so their skin got lighter

773
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:47,160
than the air got lighter their eyes got

774
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:49,530
lighter and that's what color is off

775
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:51,390
ginger is all about and I think it's

776
00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:53,760
such a if we could just convince white

777
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:56,760
people of this we would have freedom at

778
00:32:01,910 --> 00:31:59,700
last in this country but as long as we

779
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:01,920
believe that the myth of race we will

780
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:04,020
never be free we will always be our

781
00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:06,990
lives will be dictated by the lie of

782
00:32:10,910 --> 00:32:08,390
race

783
00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:10,920
James sometime in the recent past I

784
00:32:15,370 --> 00:32:12,870
watched this TV show

785
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:15,380
we're lots of people of different colors

786
00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:18,930
we're doing this DNA testing right and

787
00:32:24,530 --> 00:32:20,990
so everybody went into it with the idea

788
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:24,540
with let's say John or whoever went with

789
00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:26,130
the hopes they had so much a Native

790
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:27,780
American in them and then it's white man

791
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,430
or this white girl when it's at Hope and

792
00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:31,200
they were and they want to tell you what

793
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:34,260
they assume their ancestry or the

794
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:37,530
history of their lineage and boy you

795
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:39,000
should have seen the look on some of

796
00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:40,710
these people's faces when they found

797
00:32:44,299 --> 00:32:42,540
that they were not inning they had a lot

798
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,309
of black in them or they were not this

799
00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:46,080
and they had a lot of this in them they

800
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:48,540
had these pre like these breathe in the

801
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:50,610
oceans that they're going to be this

802
00:32:54,049 --> 00:32:52,710
thing and when they find out it's none

803
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:54,059
of the race that they hoped it to be

804
00:32:58,700 --> 00:32:56,220
their whole world comes crashing down

805
00:33:01,490 --> 00:32:58,710
you can see it all over their face and

806
00:33:03,610 --> 00:33:01,500
that is so unnecessary Italy would speak

807
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:03,620
the truth from the beginning because

808
00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:07,050
Native Americans were also are also in

809
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:10,950
their DNA is black black people came to

810
00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:13,559
this continent and over the years

811
00:33:18,410 --> 00:33:15,990
because they were exposed to less

812
00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:18,420
sunlight their bodies changed color has

813
00:33:23,650 --> 00:33:20,940
nothing to do with they did not grow

814
00:33:26,890 --> 00:33:23,660
they did not pop up out of the ground

815
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:26,900
they came to this country from up from

816
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:31,200
sub-saharan Africa took a long time but

817
00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:32,970
when you read them Sir Thomas they came

818
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:34,860
before Columbus all of a sudden it's

819
00:33:39,130 --> 00:33:36,450
going to be like why didn't somebody

820
00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:39,140
tell us this why didn't we know this

821
00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:42,870
because we don't tell things that make

822
00:33:48,740 --> 00:33:45,900
us white folks look less than we have to

823
00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:48,750
are you aware that in Africa they were

824
00:33:54,169 --> 00:33:52,020
doing cataract surgery with metal

825
00:34:00,320 --> 00:33:54,179
instruments before there were hospitals

826
00:34:01,940 --> 00:34:00,330
in Europe do not know that no of course

827
00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:01,950
you didn't know that because it is when

828
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:05,280
you stop of the stop sign that you would

829
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:06,360
let that red light and you're thinking

830
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:09,300
damn I gotta you know and when I start

831
00:34:12,889 --> 00:34:10,560
and when I was sitting at the stop light

832
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:12,899
there's a big truck beside me and a big

833
00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:15,419
burly guy in the truck is what he's on

834
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:16,740
schedule he's gotta go and I looked up

835
00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:18,510
and I grin at him and I know he's

836
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:20,700
thinking oh well that I think he's such

837
00:34:24,590 --> 00:34:21,929
a lovely saying what I'm really thinking

838
00:34:28,210 --> 00:34:24,600
is your life right now is being dictated

839
00:34:30,589 --> 00:34:28,220
by the invention of a black man

840
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:30,599
and when I put my shoes on in the

841
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:32,609
morning I know that it took a black man

842
00:34:37,099 --> 00:34:34,800
to invent the last so that I could have

843
00:34:39,319 --> 00:34:37,109
a left shoe and a right shoe and have

844
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:39,329
cheap shoes because they this guy made a

845
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:41,369
last so that you could shoes so shoes

846
00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:45,210
together mechanically instead by hand if

847
00:34:49,549 --> 00:34:47,250
kids knew that kind of thing as they

848
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:49,559
walk down the hall and look at shoes and

849
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:51,000
say themselves yeah you've got those

850
00:34:57,290 --> 00:34:52,889
shoes because a black man invented the

851
00:34:59,780 --> 00:34:57,300
last but we do not give black students

852
00:35:03,440 --> 00:34:59,790
we do not give black people something to

853
00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:03,450
be proud of and they had they were here

854
00:35:08,089 --> 00:35:05,550
long before we got here and they'll be

855
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:08,099
here long after we're gone because their

856
00:35:12,589 --> 00:35:10,619
bodies will not be destroyed by exposure

857
00:35:15,859 --> 00:35:12,599
to the sunlight that we're going to get

858
00:35:19,339 --> 00:35:15,869
more and more of now because mr. fool in

859
00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:19,349
the white house has now taken off the

860
00:35:24,020 --> 00:35:21,780
limits on how much pollution you can put

861
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:24,030
in the air and so we're going to be

862
00:35:28,579 --> 00:35:25,710
exposed to worse worse and worse

863
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,589
situation as we destroy more and more of

864
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:31,200
the ozone layer what folks are in

865
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:33,140
trouble and they don't even realize it

866
00:35:37,789 --> 00:35:35,670
yeah it seems at this place that we're

867
00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:37,799
in now this time period there's just

868
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:39,990
lots going on everywhere about

869
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:42,900
everything and that's sort of parallels

870
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:44,250
with what I mentioned - you're a little

871
00:35:48,559 --> 00:35:46,530
early Jean at least for me in my life at

872
00:35:50,780 --> 00:35:48,569
least in my system and how I process

873
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,790
information and energy and exist in this

874
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:52,859
world as a peaceful human being I

875
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:54,660
totally believe with my entire being

876
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:57,690
that as as I am peaceful I am more

877
00:36:04,549 --> 00:36:01,680
powerful more prepared more clearer to

878
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,559
help as a count active participant and

879
00:36:09,049 --> 00:36:06,480
my contribution to the world when I

880
00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:09,059
become clear I don't buy into politics I

881
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,950
understand it exists I understand it

882
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,720
affects a lot of people I don't buy into

883
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:14,640
terrorism I understand and exist and it

884
00:36:19,099 --> 00:36:17,280
affect a lot of people but my god my job

885
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,109
my gig is to become as clear and as

886
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,359
solid as a rock as possible so that I

887
00:36:26,359 --> 00:36:24,480
can educate others through this illusion

888
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:26,369
that it seems to be drowning the world

889
00:36:36,010 --> 00:36:32,910
and strife and misery in the world and

890
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:36,020
strife and misery has also been

891
00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:40,250
reinforced by the way we

892
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:43,700
picture one we want I want everybody to

893
00:36:49,810 --> 00:36:47,690
worship I understand and so my only my

894
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:49,820
gig is to raise people beyond that raise

895
00:36:53,530 --> 00:36:52,010
them above that with information like

896
00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:53,540
you are doing you are just supplying

897
00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:56,030
this radio audience with lots of

898
00:36:59,920 --> 00:36:57,680
information that never come across our

899
00:37:01,450 --> 00:36:59,930
path and to you because of the work that

900
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:01,460
you have done and all the knowledge that

901
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:02,750
you have gleaned and you're bringing

902
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:04,610
this forth I totally agree that people

903
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:06,380
needs to hear more of what it is you're

904
00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:09,920
sharing so they can begin no they don't

905
00:37:15,010 --> 00:37:12,980
they need to go out and go to somebody

906
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:15,020
who knows these things and say what book

907
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:16,730
should I read this week they need to

908
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:18,320
turn off their television they need to

909
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:21,440
put down there and get handheld games

910
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:23,270
they need to say to their children you

911
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:25,040
will read you will spend half an hour

912
00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:27,380
and so stay in silent reading every day

913
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:29,270
from now on as long as you live under my

914
00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:31,760
roof and I will give you the book list

915
00:37:35,260 --> 00:37:33,590
you're going to read and you will turn

916
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:35,270
off that television after school you

917
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:36,710
will not watch more than an hour of

918
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:39,530
television any night except maybe Friday

919
00:37:42,250 --> 00:37:40,910
and Saturday nights the rest of the

920
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:42,260
ayats you will not watch more than an

921
00:37:46,210 --> 00:37:44,210
hour of television they need to

922
00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:46,220
recondition their children to the idea

923
00:37:49,690 --> 00:37:48,440
that there's there is more to learn out

924
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,700
there than they're learning in school

925
00:37:53,890 --> 00:37:51,680
and they need to be prepared and their

926
00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:53,900
parents need to be prepared to confront

927
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:56,960
the racism that is in in the textbooks

928
00:38:01,960 --> 00:37:59,090
and theirs in the span the standardized

929
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:01,970
testing and is in the situation where

930
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:03,770
children of a certain color and a

931
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,390
certain size and a certain age are

932
00:38:11,110 --> 00:38:08,720
guaranteed perfection and children of

933
00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:11,120
another color or another size one of the

934
00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:12,260
worst thing you should be in this

935
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:14,030
country is overweight particularly as a

936
00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:17,630
female you know that as well as I do we

937
00:38:22,690 --> 00:38:19,790
destroy young girls every day because we

938
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:22,700
just dislike the way they look we

939
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:24,530
destroy little children of color every

940
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:25,850
day we make them think less of

941
00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:28,850
themselves if you haven't read Nathan

942
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:33,380
Ruxpin book that's the conditioning of

943
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:36,650
the recent racial conditioning of our

944
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:38,660
children you better get it and read it

945
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:42,290
because of the subtitle is ending

946
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:45,680
psychological genocide in our schools if

947
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:48,110
you haven't read that book you need to

948
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:49,910
read that so that when your cousin you

949
00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:52,130
have something like me to come and talk

950
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:53,990
to you you

951
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:55,609
thank the mistake of saying it doesn't

952
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,470
affect you because let me tell you that

953
00:39:02,130 --> 00:38:59,359
racism affects you every day of your

954
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:02,140
life even though you don't buy into it

955
00:39:06,370 --> 00:39:04,700
it affects you in a way them here are

956
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,380
the ways here are the things that you're

957
00:39:11,170 --> 00:39:08,720
going to buy to wear and they will be

958
00:39:12,609 --> 00:39:11,180
produced in another country because the

959
00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:12,619
people who would work producing them in

960
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:13,790
this country would be people of color

961
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:15,050
and we don't want to spend that much

962
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,330
money paying people of color for doing

963
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:20,000
those jobs so we send them overseas and

964
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:23,210
people of color produce this all these

965
00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:25,490
lovely things and work for something

966
00:39:34,660 --> 00:39:29,960
like maybe 25 35 40 cents an hour that's

967
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:34,670
racism every one of us every every one

968
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:36,650
of us is affected by racism everyday but

969
00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:38,990
if we're late we can say I don't see it

970
00:39:44,859 --> 00:39:42,260
the first the last time anybody saw that

971
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:44,869
said to me I don't see color will be the

972
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,130
third last time they'll say it to

973
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:49,280
anybody else because when some woman

974
00:39:53,020 --> 00:39:50,690
that's usually a white woman who says to

975
00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:53,030
me I don't see color I say well if you

976
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,440
saw color you wouldn't wear that dress

977
00:39:58,359 --> 00:39:56,480
that that's above of those pants it's

978
00:39:59,740 --> 00:39:58,369
obvious you don't see color and then

979
00:40:02,829 --> 00:39:59,750
they say you know what I mean I say oh

980
00:40:04,780 --> 00:40:02,839
no exact I know exactly exactly what you

981
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:04,790
mean what you mean is you don't want to

982
00:40:09,339 --> 00:40:06,790
see somebody's color because you are

983
00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:09,349
uncomfortable with skin color so you're

984
00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:11,300
going to pretend you don't see it you're

985
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:12,950
gonna say you're colorblind I couldn't

986
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:14,510
tell you the names of all the people

987
00:40:18,070 --> 00:40:15,770
that have told me they were colorblind

988
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,080
and I say to them let's go down as

989
00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:20,480
Glinda Hilary's did black Linda Gilligan

990
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:23,000
said in a workshop I was doing let's go

991
00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:24,800
somebody bounced up sure and said that

992
00:40:27,339 --> 00:40:26,150
now standing there I thought oh Lord

993
00:40:28,810 --> 00:40:27,349
I've gotta back up there's gonna be

994
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,820
bloodshed here I'd only getting blood on

995
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:31,040
this suit and I backed up and Linda Gary

996
00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:33,470
very kindly said I think you have an eye

997
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:35,180
problem let's get make an appointment

998
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,190
with this optometrist so that we can

999
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:40,160
take care of your eye problem I'll bet

1000
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:41,690
that woman never said I'm colorblind

1001
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:43,510
again

1002
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:45,890
Jane you had mentioned Europe a little

1003
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:47,240
bit a little bit ago let me ask you do

1004
00:40:51,790 --> 00:40:49,730
you think that the level of racism is

1005
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:51,800
that what you did of that which it is in

1006
00:40:56,620 --> 00:40:54,890
America in Europe the letters that I get

1007
00:40:59,470 --> 00:40:56,630
from overseas would tend to indicate

1008
00:41:01,599 --> 00:40:59,480
that it is exactly the same and I've

1009
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:01,609
been to several over seven countries

1010
00:41:05,890 --> 00:41:03,740
overseas and the same thing is happening

1011
00:41:07,059 --> 00:41:05,900
there as it's happening here and one of

1012
00:41:10,959 --> 00:41:07,069
the reasons it's happening is the

1013
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:10,969
because we send people to fight in wars

1014
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,180
in Europe and spread that vicious

1015
00:41:20,349 --> 00:41:17,599
disgusting racism everywhere we go and

1016
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:20,359
now we have at people all over the world

1017
00:41:25,089 --> 00:41:23,359
have access to television and if you

1018
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,099
have access to American the United

1019
00:41:34,569 --> 00:41:28,640
States television you have access to how

1020
00:41:36,459 --> 00:41:34,579
to be a racist I want to talk about

1021
00:41:39,759 --> 00:41:36,469
responsibility sure

1022
00:41:42,189 --> 00:41:39,769
I love responsible Eve personal

1023
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:42,199
responsibility of course having to what

1024
00:41:44,799 --> 00:41:43,609
it takes to be responsible the

1025
00:41:46,479 --> 00:41:44,809
information and knowledge and the

1026
00:41:48,459 --> 00:41:46,489
understanding and the teachings that it

1027
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:48,469
takes but personal responsibility for me

1028
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:51,170
if everyone if everyone on the planet

1029
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:53,630
took personal responsibility we could

1030
00:41:58,979 --> 00:41:56,690
snap out of it well I will not soon

1031
00:42:02,229 --> 00:41:58,989
forget the man who works for a major

1032
00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:02,239
newscaster in my living room was there

1033
00:42:06,759 --> 00:42:04,099
to interview me because of what I do and

1034
00:42:08,499 --> 00:42:06,769
then we went outside to do exterior

1035
00:42:10,809 --> 00:42:08,509
shots he said Jenna did a terrible thing

1036
00:42:13,059 --> 00:42:10,819
to my child he's a tall black attractive

1037
00:42:15,069 --> 00:42:13,069
man I said what did you do he said we

1038
00:42:17,529 --> 00:42:15,079
were living in Japan and we had no

1039
00:42:18,969 --> 00:42:17,539
problem and we came home and we were

1040
00:42:21,309 --> 00:42:18,979
watching tell it was watching television

1041
00:42:23,259 --> 00:42:21,319
in the night the man was doing the

1042
00:42:26,949 --> 00:42:23,269
business Kahn the bell curve remember

1043
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:26,959
that bell curve and he said my son was

1044
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:28,729
five years old at the time turn around

1045
00:42:32,890 --> 00:42:30,650
said dad why are they saying those awful

1046
00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:32,900
things about us so he changed the

1047
00:42:39,309 --> 00:42:35,150
channel and it was a difference very

1048
00:42:41,019 --> 00:42:39,319
erudite quite newscaster saying the same

1049
00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:41,029
kinds of things in the kid he said he

1050
00:42:44,949 --> 00:42:43,279
jumped he got up in my lap he said hey

1051
00:42:47,529 --> 00:42:44,959
let's go back to Japan I don't want to

1052
00:42:50,019 --> 00:42:47,539
live here anymore by that time that tall

1053
00:42:51,609 --> 00:42:50,029
black men were tears running down his

1054
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,619
cheek and he said I shouldn't be crying

1055
00:42:56,319 --> 00:42:52,880
about this I said why shouldn't you be

1056
00:42:56,949 --> 00:42:56,329
crying about this your child got a rude

1057
00:42:58,930 --> 00:42:56,959
awakening

1058
00:43:01,689 --> 00:42:58,940
but what life is like in the United

1059
00:43:04,299 --> 00:43:01,699
States he hadn't had that experience in

1060
00:43:07,689 --> 00:43:04,309
Japan but he will have it here and you

1061
00:43:10,029 --> 00:43:07,699
don't have to apologize for saying to

1062
00:43:12,009 --> 00:43:10,039
his son he's wrong he's a fool and a

1063
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:12,019
liar don't believe what he's saying but

1064
00:43:17,289 --> 00:43:14,390
the man got paid immense immense amounts

1065
00:43:19,509 --> 00:43:17,299
of money for dealing with the bell curve

1066
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:19,519
and showing that those people of color

1067
00:43:23,019 --> 00:43:20,390
at this

1068
00:43:25,930 --> 00:43:23,029
and the left side of this curve and as

1069
00:43:27,579 --> 00:43:25,940
you as you go up they get less and less

1070
00:43:29,799 --> 00:43:27,589
people they're less and less people of

1071
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:29,809
color and at the very top there aren't

1072
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:31,369
as many but as you get down to the other

1073
00:43:35,140 --> 00:43:32,569
side they're all white and those are

1074
00:43:37,390 --> 00:43:35,150
where the brilliant ones are that's what

1075
00:43:39,249 --> 00:43:37,400
the kid was learning as he sat there the

1076
00:43:42,009 --> 00:43:39,259
first night he was back in this country

1077
00:43:45,029 --> 00:43:42,019
watching television now the man who

1078
00:43:47,259 --> 00:43:45,039
wrote the book the bell curve should be

1079
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:47,269
well there are several things that ought

1080
00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:48,230
to happen to him

1081
00:43:53,470 --> 00:43:50,440
but nobody should buy into that nonsense

1082
00:43:56,249 --> 00:43:53,480
he has a man with a lot of education you

1083
00:43:59,079 --> 00:43:56,259
know what he's talking about he does not

1084
00:44:01,630 --> 00:43:59,089
Jane could you give us those who are not

1085
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,640
familiar with all of you work can you

1086
00:44:08,170 --> 00:44:02,960
tell me a little bit about your

1087
00:44:11,620 --> 00:44:08,180
brown-eyed blue eyes program or the

1088
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:11,630
exercise I'm glad you said exercise did

1089
00:44:25,749 --> 00:44:24,039
congratulations white boy it wasn't an

1090
00:44:28,569 --> 00:44:25,759
experiment initially that's an honest

1091
00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:28,579
question no I'm not really it was never

1092
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:31,190
an experiment and let me tell you what I

1093
00:44:36,779 --> 00:44:34,160
do is create a microcosm of society in a

1094
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:36,789
third grade classroom or a boardroom or

1095
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:39,890
you know learning centers and I put

1096
00:44:42,819 --> 00:44:41,210
people through an exercise in

1097
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,829
discrimination based on the color of

1098
00:44:46,509 --> 00:44:44,960
their eyes and I put brown-eyed people

1099
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:46,519
on the top every time because most

1100
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:48,440
people of other color groups have brown

1101
00:44:52,779 --> 00:44:49,970
eyes and they've had all the abuse we

1102
00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:52,789
need to take in this country the first

1103
00:44:57,809 --> 00:44:56,150
time I did that was a tough huh the day

1104
00:45:01,539 --> 00:44:57,819
after Martin Luther King jr. was killed

1105
00:45:05,410 --> 00:45:01,549
and I can't talk about that saying those

1106
00:45:06,819 --> 00:45:05,420
words causes me pain because Martin

1107
00:45:09,579 --> 00:45:06,829
Luther King jr. had been one of our

1108
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:09,589
heroes of the month in February along

1109
00:45:14,380 --> 00:45:12,130
with George Washington who owned slaves

1110
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:14,390
Abraham Lincoln who refused to free the

1111
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:15,920
slaves until he until he absolutely had

1112
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:18,710
to Daniel Boone who took over Native

1113
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:20,569
Americans lands without anything and

1114
00:45:25,930 --> 00:45:22,910
anything and Daniel and Davy Crockett

1115
00:45:27,819 --> 00:45:25,940
who was killed as he tried to kill

1116
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:27,829
Mexicans as we tried to take over their

1117
00:45:33,790 --> 00:45:30,410
land those were our heroes of the month

1118
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:33,800
did you get you did you kind you check

1119
00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:36,110
I was going to have to go into my

1120
00:45:40,570 --> 00:45:37,700
classroom the morning after that

1121
00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:40,580
happened and explained to my students

1122
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:42,620
why Martin Luther King jr. was

1123
00:45:49,150 --> 00:45:45,920
assassinated and I couldn't think of a

1124
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:49,160
way to explain that horror and that

1125
00:45:53,530 --> 00:45:51,650
ignorance to nine year olds in all

1126
00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:53,540
flight all Christian Riceville Iowa

1127
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:56,390
so I decided as I was ironing the teepee

1128
00:45:59,290 --> 00:45:58,130
that my previous year's third graders

1129
00:46:01,780 --> 00:45:59,300
had made an outcome probe in the

1130
00:46:03,370 --> 00:46:01,790
classroom the next day that not only was

1131
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:03,380
I going to teach them the Sioux Indian

1132
00:46:07,090 --> 00:46:05,810
Prayer which says o Great Spirit kept me

1133
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:07,100
from ever judging a man until I've

1134
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:08,570
walked a mile in his moccasins

1135
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:10,370
they decided I would arrange to have

1136
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:12,860
that prayer answered for them I decided

1137
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:14,390
that I would give them the opportunity

1138
00:46:18,070 --> 00:46:15,950
to find out how it feels to be something

1139
00:46:19,870 --> 00:46:18,080
other than white in the United States of

1140
00:46:21,850 --> 00:46:19,880
America so the next morning I would in

1141
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:21,860
separated my students acquiring the

1142
00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:24,110
color of their eyes and treated the

1143
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:26,470
people who had blue eyes the way we

1144
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:29,450
constantly and consistently treat people

1145
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:32,800
of skin other than point in this country

1146
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:35,360
the first thing I learned was how I

1147
00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:37,310
looked the white to black people and the

1148
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:38,780
brown people and to all those who are

1149
00:46:44,290 --> 00:46:40,970
other than white it was it just

1150
00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:44,300
terrified me my little brown eyed third

1151
00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:48,200
graders turned in to what I had taught

1152
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:50,780
them to be and what their parents had

1153
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:52,550
taught to them be and what the preacher

1154
00:46:56,170 --> 00:46:54,530
had taught them to be and with all the

1155
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:56,180
other teachers had taught them to be and

1156
00:47:01,150 --> 00:46:58,850
I recognized it immediately and I

1157
00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:01,160
thought how will we ever get forgiven

1158
00:47:07,870 --> 00:47:05,270
for this I was just like and when I went

1159
00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:07,880
to the teachers lounge at noon because

1160
00:47:11,950 --> 00:47:09,980
they it was just sore for endless what

1161
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:11,960
my kids had turned into but I needed

1162
00:47:16,030 --> 00:47:13,670
some support and I was sure that my

1163
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:16,040
educated friends and the teachers depart

1164
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:18,050
in the teachers lounge would understand

1165
00:47:21,310 --> 00:47:19,490
what I was talking about make it help me

1166
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:21,320
so in the teachers lounge the other two

1167
00:47:25,690 --> 00:47:22,910
third-grade teachers were there one was

1168
00:47:28,450 --> 00:47:25,700
probably 56 at the time and the other

1169
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:28,460
words over 60 or probably 62 and she had

1170
00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:30,020
been molding young minds for over 30

1171
00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:32,270
years I told them what was happening in

1172
00:47:36,130 --> 00:47:33,800
my classroom that they after Martin

1173
00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:36,140
Luther King jr. was killed and the

1174
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:37,550
younger of those who third grade

1175
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:39,530
teachers said I don't know how you have

1176
00:47:42,910 --> 00:47:41,330
time for all that extra stuff it's all I

1177
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:42,920
can do the teach reading riting and

1178
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:45,470
rithmetic well she hadn't taught reading

1179
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:46,970
writing and arithmetic yet she meant a

1180
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:47,640
little is done yet

1181
00:47:51,140 --> 00:47:49,290
just uh the other one said I'll never

1182
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,150
forget it as long as I live she looked

1183
00:47:56,810 --> 00:47:53,040
up and this is a woman who goes to

1184
00:47:58,580 --> 00:47:56,820
church religiously and said 62 years old

1185
00:48:00,350 --> 00:47:58,590
I don't know why you're doing that I

1186
00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:00,360
thought it was about time somebody shot

1187
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:03,060
that son of a [\h__\h] now nobody wants to

1188
00:48:09,260 --> 00:48:06,330
hear that language over the rail nobody

1189
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:09,270
wants to hear a teachers lounge in a

1190
00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:12,090
public school building where there are

1191
00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:14,700
no people of color you have no excuse

1192
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,220
for that hatred you have nothing to base

1193
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:19,920
that ignorance on except the fact that

1194
00:48:25,850 --> 00:48:22,770
you have finished college and you have

1195
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:25,860
been reinforced in knowing who is right

1196
00:48:29,810 --> 00:48:27,090
and who is wrong

1197
00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:29,820
I was absolutely furious I expected some

1198
00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:32,940
teacher to say Helen god is love or

1199
00:48:36,890 --> 00:48:35,220
maybe in so much as you have done event

1200
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:36,900
one of these my brethren so have you

1201
00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:39,720
done it unto me or any of those other

1202
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:41,640
wonderful phrases those wonderful

1203
00:48:47,390 --> 00:48:45,180
wonderful minds that we repeat nobody

1204
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:47,400
said anything everyone was either those

1205
00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:49,230
teachers either smiled or laughed and

1206
00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:51,390
not it because she had expressed their

1207
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:53,160
feelings perfectly and as the most

1208
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:54,480
senior member of the group she had the

1209
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:57,090
most right to do so I went back to my

1210
00:49:00,530 --> 00:48:58,890
classroom determined that no person of

1211
00:49:02,990 --> 00:49:00,540
any age will ever leave my presence with

1212
00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:03,000
those other attitudes unchallenged I may

1213
00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:04,440
not be able to change your attitude but

1214
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,820
I can challenge your attitude and you

1215
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:07,200
have to prove to me the white people

1216
00:49:11,330 --> 00:49:08,520
were superior you can't do it because it

1217
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:11,340
isn't true and if you think it is oh

1218
00:49:14,810 --> 00:49:13,290
well I could go into a real long spiel

1219
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:14,820
about that you don't have time for that

1220
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:17,160
I learned more that day than I wanted to

1221
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:20,930
know about racism I watched little boys

1222
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:24,180
dyslexic boys who couldn't read the day

1223
00:49:28,220 --> 00:49:26,670
before they got magic eyes read words I

1224
00:49:30,530 --> 00:49:28,230
knew they couldn't read and spell words

1225
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:30,540
they knew they couldn't spell and I

1226
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:32,040
watched the little blue-eyed girl who

1227
00:49:36,110 --> 00:49:33,570
came into my room reading at the sixth

1228
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:36,120
grade level and whom I taught to

1229
00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:38,760
multiply about the first 15 minutes of

1230
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:40,740
math class she never made a mistake in

1231
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:42,690
multiplication again until she had the

1232
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,300
wrong color eyes and I watched that girl

1233
00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:48,000
disintegrated from my very eyes she made

1234
00:49:51,610 --> 00:49:49,590
mistakes in reading she made mistakes in

1235
00:49:54,980 --> 00:49:51,620
spelling and she forgot how to multiply

1236
00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:54,990
because I told her that she had the

1237
00:50:02,030 --> 00:49:59,700
wrong color eyes if that you can do that

1238
00:50:05,539 --> 00:50:02,040
with third graders nine-year-old fight

1239
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:05,549
children in one day think of how you can

1240
00:50:10,750 --> 00:50:07,890
change the brains of children of color

1241
00:50:13,130 --> 00:50:10,760
if you do it to them for a lifetime and

1242
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:13,140
think how you can change the brains of

1243
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:17,880
white people with that why and it is a

1244
00:50:22,609 --> 00:50:21,270
lie that's that's what I've learned and

1245
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:22,619
that's why I wish people would remember

1246
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:26,010
that if we treated white people every

1247
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:29,010
day the way we treat people of color

1248
00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:31,530
they would act exactly the way other

1249
00:50:38,780 --> 00:50:36,359
colors are acting there is no defense

1250
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:38,790
at the age of nine against the kind of

1251
00:50:44,059 --> 00:50:41,430
things that a race racist teacher says

1252
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:44,069
or when you're in high school and a

1253
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:46,440
racist coach is saying them or when

1254
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:49,890
you're twenty mm I guess in which you

1255
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:52,530
are told that well after all according

1256
00:50:59,920 --> 00:50:57,089
to the bell curve and they believe that

1257
00:51:02,960 --> 00:50:59,930
nonsense and in order to pass the course

1258
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:02,970
you have to regurgitate that not reorder

1259
00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:05,430
Tate that nonsense on a test yes yes

1260
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:07,559
Jane we're slipping here slowly but

1261
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:09,210
surely coming to the top of the hour I

1262
00:51:14,059 --> 00:51:11,730
want to first say how much I don't I

1263
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,069
only know one person has the same kind

1264
00:51:19,309 --> 00:51:16,319
of passion I do and that is you I love

1265
00:51:21,289 --> 00:51:19,319
your fire about what you are doing to

1266
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:21,299
make an amazing difference in this world

1267
00:51:25,789 --> 00:51:23,970
I really mean that I do I did tell a

1268
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:25,799
friend of mine dan hawk was I put this

1269
00:51:29,780 --> 00:51:27,210
question to you and the question is

1270
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:29,790
would you please ask Jane what is the

1271
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:31,770
difference between racism and Prejudice

1272
00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:36,240
oh all kinds of time to difference a

1273
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:39,420
racism prejudice is prejudging people

1274
00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:43,290
period on any basis racism is having the

1275
00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:45,150
power to prejudge people on a thesis of

1276
00:51:50,859 --> 00:51:47,190
the color of their skin and having the

1277
00:51:53,319 --> 00:51:50,869
power to institutionalize your prejudice

1278
00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:53,329
racism is a powerful force

1279
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:55,380
prejudice is something that everybody

1280
00:51:59,059 --> 00:51:56,970
has I have a prejudice where snakes are

1281
00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:59,069
concerned I'm scared to death oh I have

1282
00:52:02,329 --> 00:52:00,660
a present I'm not scared to death but I

1283
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:02,339
do not doesn't bother me to kill them I

1284
00:52:06,260 --> 00:52:04,049
have a prejudice where mosquitoes are

1285
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,270
concerned I have a prejudice where the

1286
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:08,400
flu virus is concerned I automatically

1287
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:10,770
judge it's not something I want I'm not

1288
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:12,390
prejudiced toward people of dead

1289
00:52:17,479 --> 00:52:14,910
skin color or even toward the skin even

1290
00:52:19,999 --> 00:52:17,489
toward those who skin is colorless

1291
00:52:24,279 --> 00:52:20,009
I don't prejudge people on the basis of

1292
00:52:26,450 --> 00:52:24,289
the color of their skin that's racism

1293
00:52:28,009 --> 00:52:26,460
Jane we got two minutes would you please

1294
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:28,019
give us a final thought to take us out

1295
00:52:34,099 --> 00:52:31,140
of the show please there's only one race

1296
00:52:37,549 --> 00:52:34,109
on the face of the earth you all have

1297
00:52:40,279 --> 00:52:37,559
the same ancestor you'd better start

1298
00:52:42,049 --> 00:52:40,289
treating people like cousins cousins

1299
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,059
that you like or at least that you will

1300
00:52:46,999 --> 00:52:44,400
protect from harm because within 30

1301
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:47,009
years white people will have become a

1302
00:52:51,979 --> 00:52:49,319
numerical minority in the United States

1303
00:52:54,229 --> 00:52:51,989
of America and somebody always says to

1304
00:52:55,309 --> 00:52:54,239
me well if they get power aren't in a

1305
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:55,319
lottery that's the way we've treated

1306
00:53:00,680 --> 00:52:58,170
them if that is your fear then what you

1307
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:00,690
need to do to fix that is treat people

1308
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,910
the way they want to be treated not the

1309
00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:04,559
way you want to be treated but the way

1310
00:53:07,819 --> 00:53:06,390
they want to be treated and see I don't

1311
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,829
believe in the golden rule I believe in

1312
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:09,599
the Platinum rule which says do unto

1313
00:53:14,029 --> 00:53:11,640
others as others would have you do unto

1314
00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:14,039
them which means you have to have

1315
00:53:17,870 --> 00:53:16,440
conversations with them you have to talk

1316
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,880
about what they want is there just

1317
00:53:22,819 --> 00:53:19,920
assuming that they want at the same

1318
00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:22,829
things that you and I do they don't and

1319
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,140
if they do if they if they do they'll

1320
00:53:29,420 --> 00:53:27,119
tell me so if they don't they'll tell me

1321
00:53:30,829 --> 00:53:29,430
so that means we have to communicate

1322
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:30,839
with one another start communicating

1323
00:53:32,749 --> 00:53:32,190
with those who are different from

1324
00:53:36,890 --> 00:53:32,759
yourself

1325
00:53:38,269 --> 00:53:36,900
you'll learn an immense amount Wow

1326
00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:38,279
Jane thank you for being a powerful

1327
00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:40,049
informative guest on center of light

1328
00:53:43,729 --> 00:53:41,670
really I absolutely appreciate you

1329
00:53:44,269 --> 00:53:43,739
coming here and sharing with us your

1330
00:53:46,999 --> 00:53:44,279
fire

1331
00:53:48,529 --> 00:53:47,009
seriously dear well thank you for

1332
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:48,539
listening and you may lose a whole lot

1333
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:51,089
of listeners because of this but if

1334
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:52,470
you're a white man with a little bit of

1335
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:54,960
courage don't let the turkeys get you

1336
00:53:58,099 --> 00:53:56,730
down that's a turkey to get you down

1337
00:53:59,989 --> 00:53:58,109
you're gonna take a lot of abuse over

1338
00:54:02,420 --> 00:53:59,999
this you are not responsible for

1339
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:02,430
anything that I said I am responsible

1340
00:54:06,789 --> 00:54:05,220
for what I say and anyone who wants to

1341
00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:06,799
disagree that you have my permission

1342
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:11,220
like I said I don't blame ya you know

1343
00:54:14,569 --> 00:54:12,839
something comes my way as I said before

1344
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:14,579
I'll just metaphorically energetically

1345
00:54:23,210 --> 00:54:21,259
and hand it back to the person who threw

1346
00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:23,220
it to you Oh Shawn I love the idea that

1347
00:54:26,090 --> 00:54:24,599
when the person spit on Martin Luther

1348
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:26,100
King he took out his handkerchief

1349
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:27,420
whiten brought it back to the prison

1350
00:54:31,250 --> 00:54:29,910
said I think this belongs to you yeah

1351
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,260
good idea

1352
00:54:35,210 --> 00:54:33,480
what an idea so then somebody says

1353
00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:35,220
something ugly to you you need to say oh

1354
00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:37,590
well that's reflected in my face and now

1355
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:39,150
you got it back because it's reflected

1356
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:41,880
on you how you like it now Jane thank

1357
00:54:45,530 --> 00:54:44,010
you very much I look forward to having

1358
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:45,540
you again in the future keep us supposed

1359
00:54:48,590 --> 00:54:46,530
to do what you're doing

1360
00:54:50,930 --> 00:54:48,600
new books you got come on don't you have

1361
00:54:52,730 --> 00:54:50,940
a new book out right now there well yeah

1362
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,740
I wrote a book called a collar in my

1363
00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:54,960
pocket but it isn't a book as much as it

1364
00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:57,150
is a memory of the things that have

1365
00:55:01,370 --> 00:54:59,400
happened that have happened to me and I

1366
00:55:03,410 --> 00:55:01,380
advise people to read it because if they

1367
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:03,420
do they'll find out how white people

1368
00:55:07,610 --> 00:55:05,370
respond to being treated for a few hours

1369
00:55:08,330 --> 00:55:07,620
the way black people are treated for a

1370
00:55:10,220 --> 00:55:08,340
lifetime

1371
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:10,230
sounds like a one hand out to everyone

1372
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:12,090
miss Jan Ellie you could find more about

1373
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:17,280
this powerful guest at WWJ and JN e le l

1374
00:55:22,550 --> 00:55:21,180
li o TT calm Jean le calm next we

1375
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:22,560
consider the library and my guess is

1376
00:55:27,830 --> 00:55:25,520
going to be sure RIS or charas Molina

1377
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:27,840
powerful spiritually though I'm looking

1378
00:55:31,490 --> 00:55:30,180
forward to having her also remember you

1379
00:55:33,620 --> 00:55:31,500
love and you lay down at night you have

1380
00:55:35,060 --> 00:55:33,630
nothing to do nothing to do except go to

1381
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:35,070
sleep breathe breathe breathe breathe

1382
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:37,170
breathe with the intention that you want

1383
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:38,640
to set the beam on you've always known

1384
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:41,730
information wisdom a new way of seeing

1385
00:55:46,070 --> 00:55:44,610
new perception and I promise you if you

1386
00:55:47,660 --> 00:55:46,080
if you open your heart and you really

1387
00:55:49,790 --> 00:55:47,670
mean it and you are passionate and

1388
00:55:51,770 --> 00:55:49,800
sincere and that floodgate begins to

1389
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:51,780
open feel of it comes to you to change

1390
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:54,090
your life Keith and glance at center of

1391
00:55:59,420 --> 00:55:56,490
light radio every Monday night 60 M

1392
00:56:02,269 --> 00:55:59,430
Eastern Time look forward to seeing here

1393
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,279
he's telling one you know let's change

1394
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:03,839
the world one person at a time